[8:08:50 PM-Sunday, November 3rd 2013 +11UCT] Shiloh: I am 'a knower of trades'
[8:10:15 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: I know.
[8:10:59 PM] Shiloh: But now, I very much prefer the coring couples, as this is the cosmic trigger for the new dispensations
[8:11:28 PM] Shiloh: No 1-1 for me, except the coring entwinement which is not 1-1 on the lower planes
[8:12:44 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: You are never 1-1 even when 1-1
[8:12:55 PM] Shiloh: Precisely. now you have the Eye of Horus de Hamarkhis
[8:13:31 PM] Shiloh: You liked my reply to mudra?
[8:13:34 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: 1111
[8:13:44 PM] Shiloh: I put a lot of Egyptian detail into it
[8:13:45 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Yes I like your presence there. You really mix up the energies. I'm so glad Oxy has stopped his hamster wheel posts.
[8:14:10 PM] Shiloh: You noticed my 'agenda'
[8:14:15 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: I did.
[8:14:30 PM] Shiloh: He is reading the Thuban stuff, but is unsure what to make of it
[8:14:48 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: He's kept away for a while. Pat him on the shoulder. Love.
[8:14:54 PM] Shiloh: A little bit here and a little other bit there
[8:15:22 PM] Shiloh: You are not too disappointed about the pics?
[8:15:42 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Yes and Brook's tactlessness in just coming on to complain is not becoming. She pokes her head in uninvited when she gets displeased. She'd be better off not responding at all.
[8:15:47 PM] Shiloh: Mudra is opening up a little
[8:16:14 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Yes he is.
[8:16:32 PM] Shiloh: I am 'poking' her so with my nous of Egypt and she takes every mention of her name in a rather unprovoked personal manner. I understand her 'fears' more so than she gives credit
[8:17:10 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: She gets special attention from SiriArc. lol.
[8:17:26 PM] Shiloh: Yes and he is a lot like her in terms of mentality. Lots of data, but grounded in sources, easily misread
[8:17:55 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: She is a member of NobleDreams and disses or does not even remember her dreams. How noble.
[8:18:39 PM] Shiloh: Brook tries to come across as rather rational and scientific, but her science sources are questionable. She cant have it both ways: Science and Nabs, but she tries
[8:19:08 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Seeing her son in a casket cannot be explained by science. Her dreams forewarned her.
[8:19:21 PM] Shiloh: I am not questioning this
[8:19:45 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Metaphysics.
[8:19:55 PM] Shiloh: I am questioning her reliance on Sarfatti physics and likewise sources much less savvy in the standard models, than Jack S is
[8:20:11 PM] Shiloh: But I really don't feel like arguing with you now over science and Nabs
[8:20:50 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: We all have pieces. We won't ever have the entire picture since being Multi-D requires Multiple.
[8:21:43 PM] Shiloh: The MultiD is a colocal phaseshift of the seed and not a parallelism as many mainstreamers and most nabsers believe and adhere to
[8:22:15 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Well then clap your hands together for your own geniusness. (clap)
[8:22:32 PM] Shiloh: Think of a football egg shape rotating and you can see the geometry perhaps
[8:22:57 PM] Shiloh: I am far from genius level in mental focus and capacity. My unique cosmic talent is not science, but the decoding mechanics of the ancient texts
[8:23:55 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: And one glove does not fit all.
[8:24:20 PM] Shiloh: I have a new universe designer model, but his will become a basis for much smarter people than me to implement in the new world as a new omni-science, incorporating the metaphysics in its fullest extent
[8:25:25 PM] Shiloh: If you rotate an egg longwise it preserves its shape. But if you rotate an egg about its short perimeter, you create the omniversal shape
[8:26:04 PM] Shiloh: Just do it in the kitchen next time. This omniversal shape is the UFO shape
[8:27:11 PM] Shiloh: In technical terms the centers of the egg as a prolate ellipsoid or football remain in stasis
[8:27:16 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Yes but the gathering data is also processed by the observer. How that data gets interpreted is dependent on the presence of Mind and to what degree of comprehension that Mind can process. Is it processing in Higher Mind or Lower Mind. Or No Mind?
[8:27:58 PM] Shiloh: But the short rotation will create a pointcircle as a focus and as an oblate spheroid, just as the Earth is and flattened at the poles
[8:28:18 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: And is an egg an egg to all Minds? I suppose it is based on "Agreement".
[8:28:41 PM] Shiloh: Yes you are getting there conceptually in asking the question of what 'Mind' is
[8:29:11 PM] Shiloh: An egg is defined by its geometrical space occupancy
[8:29:21 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Mind is Awareness but to what degree are we aware? Mindful. In Mind.
[8:29:52 PM] Shiloh: Then this space might change shape yes, but even the changes in shape can be defined from its starting point of the geometry
[8:30:04 PM] Shiloh: Mind is much more than awareness
[8:30:23 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: That is easy to say.
[8:30:32 PM] Shiloh: Awareness CAN be defined as a physical parameter derived from the metaphysics of the quantumspace
[8:30:56 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: One can be brain dead. Are they still In Mind with awareness?
[8:30:58 PM] Shiloh: I can and have defined this many times in lengthy detail open and able to withstand all scrutiny
[8:31:14 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: and if so where are they? Where is Mind?
[8:31:32 PM] Shiloh: Yes, but dependent on the space configuration of the 'living beingness'
[8:31:34 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Can you see it?
[8:32:24 PM] Shiloh: Mind is the wavepart of the cosmic unification template manifesting IN finite spacetime from the void say
[8:32:46 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Can we see Mind? Or are we just digesting what is written in science books? All the information we read about, is this true knowing? True knowing with Mind or are we computers digesting what others want us to know as truth and is it truth or is it all smoke and mirrors.
[8:33:04 PM] Shiloh: Body is its complement, just as countless wave-particle duality experiments have shown in the physics of the micro and the macro
[8:33:46 PM] Shiloh: Now the ETs know, that the wave-particle dualism is applicable even in higherD and like the progenitor of the wave mechanics in the lower worlds
[8:35:01 PM] Shiloh: You are becoming hostile and so I dont know if showing you just HOW mind and body of the Descartian dichotomy and Schrödinger's quantum paradox are resolved would be of any value to you
[8:35:35 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: You are projecting. Are you feeling ok?
[8:36:08 PM] Shiloh: As said I am in NO MOOD to argue your cosmology of antiscience and anti standard with Nabs you find on youtube presentations and new age magazines and books
[3/11/2013 8:51:51 PM] Shiloh: [8:36:43 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: [8:32 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+:<<< Can we see Mind? Or are we just digesting what is written in science books? All the information we read about, is this true knowing? True knowing with Mind or are we computers digesting what others want us to know as truth and is it truth or is it all smoke and mirrors.
[8:36:46 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Read again.
[8:37:06 PM] Shiloh: You have absorbed too much humbug from the likes of Alienne and Bonacci and Tsarion to harmonise with much I would say
[8:37:20 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: I am questioning everything.
[8:37:32 PM] Shiloh: Can you see the soul AS your Body morph?
[8:38:08 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: The body cannot be animated without the soul.
[8:38:10 PM] Shiloh: This is what mind is, soul and energy or many other labels likewise insufficient to explain just how this manifests in experienced space and time
[8:38:36 PM] Shiloh: Yes indeed and so the Body becomes actually the geometry for the soul as its container
[8:38:43 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: The soul does continue to live without the body.
[8:39:00 PM] Shiloh: Now the New Age idea of the aura sphere around the body is very valid in this
[8:39:15 PM] Shiloh: So you are actually a soul in a bubble of energy
[8:39:24 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: The body will not last forever and I don't want to live forever in one body.
[8:39:42 PM] Shiloh: This you would perhaps agree with, as it validates your OBEs and dream states as a frequency modulation
[8:40:16 PM] Shiloh: I just said, that your body is geometry
[8:40:32 PM] Shiloh: Your geometry might change for the energy within the geometry
[8:40:46 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: I don't need to be told how things are. I am living.
[8:41:01 PM] Shiloh: Call this your spirit or your soul or your whatsoever energy - all valid
[8:41:32 PM] Shiloh: Well you are asking questions, which I am then attempting to answer
[8:41:35 PM] Shiloh: That is all
[8:42:59 PM] Shiloh: If you already know your answers from your other 'sources' then there is no need to ask me and especially if you already have made up your mind as to how it is and with what vocabulary and words you choose the express your worldviews
[8:43:20 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: [8:37 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+:<<< I am questioning everything. Does not mean I am looking for an outside answer. As observer experiencing, the answers I conclude will be my own.
[8:43:25 PM] Shiloh: This just leads to arguments
[8:43:40 PM] Shiloh: Yes but are you listening to what is said?
[8:44:09 PM] Shiloh: Sometimes you are excellent and like a sponge in absorbing new information
[8:44:36 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: I process all information.
[8:44:40 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: I do not absorb it.
[8:44:43 PM] Shiloh: But some times you are asking in attack modes and are deaf and blind to whatever the answers to your questions might be
[8:44:54 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: [8:40 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+:<<< I don't need to be told how things are. I am living.
[8:45:07 PM] Shiloh: This might be a problem - data retention and remembrance and memory
[8:45:30 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Experience cannot be read about. It has to be lived.
[8:45:47 PM] Shiloh: I am not telling you. I am expanding your data base - or try to
[8:46:21 PM] Shiloh: The way to unity is absorption AND reflection and not either or
[8:47:12 PM] Shiloh: And you know this in some experiences of your life and in a deep way
[8:47:27 PM] Shiloh: I am addressing the darkness-light dichotomy
[8:47:49 PM] Shiloh: Yes goodnight and have a nice day
[8:48:37 PM] Shiloh: You never answered my question about the pics I should not have shared with you
[8:48:48 PM] Shiloh: So dont ask again for pics
[8:51:00 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: I answered. Beautiful. Yummy yes.Those were my two responses. I sense a little insecurity.
[8:53:34 PM] Shiloh: Oh you are back? You signed out before
[8:53:52 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Technical issue.
[8:54:08 PM] Shiloh: Ok yes this can be prevalent
[8:54:35 PM] *** Shiloh sent Photo0012.jpg Photo0012.jpg ***. I actually had 2 pics. This is the second one
[8:55:11 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Thank you.
[8:55:27 PM] Shiloh: Well, I had you in my erotic mind. The eclipse is in 3 hours. But only Africans can see it. But it points right to Florida
[8:56:25 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Well I am sure we will sense the phaseshifts.
[8:56:40 PM] Shiloh: Metaphysically yes. But from Tuesday, the new energies will permeate many old ways. So the physical changes will be under way in their own timings
[9:08:31 PM] Shiloh: I will say goodnight sweetheart and dream about your BodyMind in its natural states of cosmic lovejoy
[9:10:06 PM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Yes goodnight (hug)
[7:51:05 AM-Monday, November 4th, 2013 +11UCT] Sirius 17: yeah she lost it there
[7:51:11 AM] Sirius 17: Yeah she lost it there, too bad, seems you were having a nice discussion for a minute
[7:51:49 AM] Sirius 17: I am going to be afk for a bit dear - cooking
[8:01:55 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Hi Tony. You being up early must mean you have some "Idea" about new constructs.
[8:04:11 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Been busy myself. Time is becoming more limited. Wouldn't you agree?
[8:04:13 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: [Sunday, 3 November 2013 10 PM] Chris Lowthert, D.C.:<<< Good morning, Debra. Are you open to sharing your natal data with me? Thank you.
[8:05:05 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: [4:10 AM] Chris Lowthert, D.C.:
<<< Ok. That makes it clear.
[8:05:10 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Being clear is important.
[8:05:34 AM] Shiloh: Yes I had a longer sleep. Good dawn Debra
[8:05:55 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Yes, may you enjoy your twilight.
[8:05:57 AM] Shiloh: So Chris is into astrology. Most of them are ok
[8:06:31 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: [3:39 AM] Chris Lowthert, D.C.:<<< When was your birthday, time, and place?
[8:07:09 AM] Shiloh: Lol You know I little about the subject matter too
[8:07:27 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: He obviously is interested in my data. I know my data.
[8:07:39 AM] Shiloh: It is a man after all?
[8:07:49 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Could be a girl. I don't know. Could be an ET in disguise.
[8:08:08 AM] Shiloh: Check the web
[8:08:41 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: What do you mean?
[8:09:37 AM] Shiloh: If heshe does charts for people, shehe will be on the search engines
[8:10:01 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Oh the profile says Male and is a Chiropractor.
[8:10:56 AM] Shiloh: https://twitter.com/chrislowthert
[8:11:02 AM] Shiloh: Indeed
[8:11:26 AM] Shiloh: "The Ucadia Financial System Model- A sustainable system under the Golden Rule for prosperity" - http://tinyurl.com/k3qar2x
[8:11:32 AM] Shiloh: This says it all to me, good day. You knew this all along and know what I think of this Nabs
[8:13:01 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: You judge too quickly. Read his website. Nikki passed away in 2006, his girlfriend.
[8:13:22 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: http://newhealthconsultant.com/
[8:13:32 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Your stubborness may lead you astray and your closed mindedness may put you in a bubble. Good day.
[8:19:56 AM] Shiloh: [8:07:39 AM] Shiloh:<<<+Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Could be a girl. I don't know. Could be an ET in disguise.
<<< Shiloh: Check the web
You are a liar for doing and saying this! Hiding behind a facade and masks. Yes have a good day too!
[8:20:24 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: I did not know. I checked your twitter site and then went to his website. I have no desire to figure out whether these people are male or female. What matters, is their desire to know some truth.
[8:20:27 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Yes, Good day again. Your projections will be your biggest downfall dear.
[8:22:44 AM] Shiloh: You bloody well knew his ucadia crap affiliations and therefore you pretended. And you know what you can do with the ashera 'Roman projections' and the Bonacci humbug and the O'Collins deceptions
[8:22:48 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Wow, guess what I just saw?
[8:22:52 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Inside my house
[8:23:15 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: I saw a shadow of a bat reflected on the ceiling.
[8:23:20 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: That's a first.
[8:25:39 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: You will learn one day that you cannot control Mind. What I think about, choose to focus on is my perogative; and if I choose to give you some time; this too is my perogative; despite what the others above think of all your bull crap. Good Day!!!
[8:32:07 AM] Shiloh: Thanking you for your time and honesty regarding your 'real affiliations' and your real considerations regarding my work. Find your mental stimulation and joy in the work of others, compared to mine. Have a stimulating and joyous and happy journeythrough the rest of your human life here, Debra Chappell McLean.
[8:32:43 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: I am already. I do not need permission. It is Debra Chappell MacKay.
[8:34:15 AM | Removed 8:39:28 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: This message has been removed.
[8:34:03 AM] Shiloh: This is the last thing, I will say to her
[8:36:23 AM] Shiloh: Thanking you for your time and honesty regarding your 'real affiliations' and your real considerations regarding my work. Find your mental stimulation and joy in the work of others, compared to mine. Have a stimulating and joyous and happy journey through the rest of your human life here, Debra Chappell MacKay.
[8:37:42 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Goodbye Tony.
[8:43:24 AM] Sirius 17: Why does she want you to look at this Chris person? I don't get it; someone she is interested in?
[8:45:30 AM] Shiloh: No ucadia stuff
[8:46:00 AM] Shiloh: [8:25 AM] Shiloh:
<<< [8:20:24 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: I did not know. I checked your twitter site and then went to his website. I have no desire to figure out whether these people are male or female. What matters, is their desire to know some truth. Yes Good day again. Your projections will be your biggest downfall dear.
<<< [8:22:44 AM] Shiloh: You bloody well knew his ucadia crap affiliations and therefore you pretended. And you know what you can do with the ashera 'Roman projections' and the Bonacci humbug and the O'Collins deceptions
<<<[8:22:48 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Wow, guess what I just saw? Inside my house. I saw a shadow of a bat reflected on the ceiling. That's a first.
[8:25:39 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: You will learn one day that you cannot control Mind. What I think about, choose to focus on is my perogative; and if I choose to give you some time; this too is my perogative; despite what the others above think of all your bull crap.
[8:46:05 AM] Shiloh: read this again
[8:46:40 AM] Shiloh: [8:46 AM] Shiloh:<<< : You will learn one day that you cannot control Mind. What I think about, choose to focus on is my perogative; and if I choose to give you some time; this too is my perogative; despite what the others above think of all your bull crap.
This tells it all
[8:46:56 AM] Sirius 17: Yes your bull crap
[8:46:58 AM] Shiloh: [8:46 AM] Shiloh:<<< if I choose to give you some time; this too is my perogative; despite what the others above think of all your bull crap.
[8:47:09 AM] Sirius 17: Her time is so precious Tony
[8:47:28 AM] Shiloh: She of course talked to Bonacci and FOC etc, telling them what we thought of their works
[8:47:42 AM] Sirius 17: Well I guess let her hang out with her FOC ucadia friends then
[8:47:48 AM] Shiloh: Now she said goodbye see?
[8:47:50 AM] Sirius 17: See how many questions they answer
[8:48:05 AM] Shiloh: I did not, because I know what is going on
[8:48:40 AM] Shiloh: When it comes to her body, she is now totally entwined with the MILD I feel this strongly. But when it comes to mind she is as anti as it can get
[8:49:17 AM] Sirius 17: Of course, why she blocked me. She hates my guts
[8:49:29 AM] Shiloh: So she calls it meme attacks when she goes off like this, but then later she calms down and the bodymind longs for my input
[8:49:49 AM] Shiloh: She will not get this from now on, because I dont need her feedback anymore. I know it has shifted and her bodymorph has been taken
[8:51:02 AM] Shiloh: Now she fully expects, that all she has to say something about her having sex and I would jump to communicate and 'share'
[8:51:15 AM] Sirius 17: Likely
[8:51:18 AM] Shiloh: But I dont need this anymore. It is MILD controlled now. See the difference?
[8:51:36 AM] Sirius 17: Umm yes because you can feel it
[8:51:43 AM] Shiloh: Yes
[8:51:51 AM] Sirius 17: No input from her required
[8:51:57 AM] Shiloh: I woke up again this morning and felt my femmeness. No, not anymore.
[8:52:05 AM] Sirius 17: I had a bizarre dream
[8:52:08 AM] Shiloh: Yes?
[8:52:29 AM] Sirius 17: I dreamed i was involved in some new church or cult or whatever and it they were all living commune style and including the kids in on the love making except it was very very weird love making
[8:53:02 AM] Shiloh: This does not sound too bad! Oh?
[8:53:26 AM] Sirius 17: They were scraping the skin with these instruments and then licking each other and allowing the kids to watch. There was no penetration or anything like that, but even the kids could feel the kunda and Carla was there and she was asking me all kinds of questions
[8:53:58 AM] Shiloh: Oh I think I know what this means
[8:54:15 AM] Sirius 17: And I was trying to explain things to her and she was very curious
[8:54:24 AM] Shiloh: What questions?
[8:54:40 AM] Sirius 17: She seemed to know how they felt when they were being licked, like a heightened sense of awareness. Oh things like, mom he is really enjoying this isn't he? Is this what sex is supposed to feel like?
[8:55:24 AM] Sirius 17: But also she was communicating with me telepathically
[8:55:25 AM] Shiloh: Licking Carla's skin?
[8:55:31 AM] Sirius 17: No, only the adults were doing this and it was just a few but the rest could feel it, including the kids
[8:56:08 AM] Shiloh: Ok you have no idea, what this is?
[8:56:12 AM] Sirius 17: No, it was bizzare lol
[8:56:32 AM] Shiloh: It is the shedding of the skin of snakes and dragons to make a new one
[8:56:37 AM] Shiloh: Not really! Old human into starhuman; Caterpillar into Cocoon into Butterfly
[8:58:02 AM] Sirius 17: Ok well that is sort of what I was thinking; the old wineskins new wineskins thing; that passage is what came to mind
[8:58:47 AM] Sirius 17: It was like we had these instruments and we scored the bodies with no pain at all
[8:59:00 AM] Shiloh: Yes it is
[8:59:01 AM] Sirius 17: In fact it was ecstacy and it was a very sensual dream
[8:59:25 AM] Shiloh: Hmm good, she blocked me now. Talking to the ucadians lol and taking their advice in her 'independent' human mindedness
[8:59:47 AM] Sirius 17: Yet at the same time everyone in this new family or church were learning things, sharing information telepathically
[9:00:03 AM] Shiloh: Yes all good. This was a good dream for the eclipse
[9:00:37 AM] Sirius 17: But they had rules too; which I thought some were kind of strict but I could see why they had them, so there were no misunderstandings
[9:01:40 AM] Sirius 17: The rules were that everyone had to share everything, but everyone seemed to have their own place in the commune or whatever
[9:02:28 AM] Sirius 17: But all meals were eaten together and all entertaining was done as a group and everyone helped raise the children
[9:04:30 AM] Shiloh: Sounds rather ET
[9:05:50 AM] Sirius 17: Hang on I am adding stuff to my curry here then I let it simmer
[9:06:09 AM] Shiloh: Always food on your mind
[9:07:26 AM] Sirius 17: Well I am cooking for the family to save us money you know, since I won't be having an income
[9:07:50 AM] Shiloh: Yes and you are doing well. I should have some toast too lol
[9:08:13 AM] Sirius 17: I am making massaman curry which is a very healthy Thai curry, serving it over brown rice. It is like a stew
[9:08:43 AM] Shiloh: I don't like rice
[9:09:24 AM] Sirius 17: Yes well brown rice is very nutty and whole grain, it goes good with the curry. But the fiber in it is very good for my diabetes, it helps slow absorbtion of sugar
[9:10:54 AM] Sirius 17: So yeah my dream seemed very new world and I woke up and was sad that I was not there
[9:11:18 AM] Sirius 17: It was nice to have the help with Carla and the caring; it felt like a real family
[9:11:44 AM] Shiloh: We are all waiting
[9:12:33 AM] Sirius 17: But something else was interesting too; we existed in a place within the old world and they didn't understand us
[9:13:08 AM] Sirius 17: We were living side by side it seemed and we just did not participate in their world much at all; they hated us
[9:14:02 AM] Sirius 17: It seemed our compound or whatever though was protected; it was inside a mountain, but then opened up to the sky
[9:14:33 AM] Sirius 17: We could see them but the old worlders could not see us; they knew we were there though. It is the first dream I have had in a while
[9:15:58 AM] Shiloh: Sounds cool!
[9:15:59 AM] Sirius 17: No one was there that I recognized other than Carla though
[9:16:06 AM] Shiloh: Like a mothership we can hope
[9:16:23 AM] Sirius 17: Everyone was someone that I do not know in this world, just her; what does that mean?
[9:16:38 AM] Shiloh: No Xeia or Rok or me?
[9:16:43 AM] Sirius 17: No
[9:16:54 AM] Shiloh: Hmm shedding your skin. How many
[9:17:12 AM] Sirius 17: You could of been there but you were no longer anyone I recognized as such
[9:17:30 AM] Sirius 17: Hmm seemed like about 20-30 of us, but I don't recall exact numbers
[9:17:42 AM] Shiloh: Personal merkabah perhaps as a spacecraft of sorts; 24 elders? A council?
[9:18:37 AM] Sirius 17: Could of been, there were an equal number of men and women and children, that I remember
[9:19:04 AM] Shiloh: Ages?
[9:19:29 AM] Sirius 17: Well the older man I was licking I would say was about 60, he wore glasses again lol
[9:19:47 AM] Sirius 17: For some reason in dreams the men I am with wear glasses, but all ages. Some older and some my age and younger
[9:20:23 AM] Sirius 17: All the children were around Carlas age it seemed and I did not see any toddlers or babies
[9:20:45 AM] Shiloh: 9-18-27-36-45-
[9:20:53 AM] Sirius 17: Roughly yeah
[9:20:58 AM] Shiloh: Ok then
[9:21:20 AM] Sirius 17: But ok here is another strange thing
[9:21:23 AM] Shiloh: Could be some sort of merkabah matrix
[9:21:42 AM] Sirius 17: Carla and I were new to this group and we were like being examined or on a trial period or whatever
[9:22:29 AM] Sirius 17: To see if we fit in, which from the expression and feelings the old man had when I was licking him seemed to indicate he thought we would get along fine
[9:22:49 AM] Sirius 17: And when I licked him his skin was sweet like honey and did not taste blood or anything salty as I would of expected
[9:23:54 AM] Shiloh: Yes this was ET contact - Dragons
[9:24:34 AM] Shiloh: The licking indicates Sirian Dog Dragons as the returned elders dead alive ones
[9:25:07 AM] Sirius 17: Lol, omg I did NOT think of that, but it makes sense
[9:25:50 AM] Sirius 17: And it is funny because I was irritated with Applesauce for licking me last night, she would not stop
[9:26:10 AM] Sirius 17: And then of course I could not be mad for long because I know it is how she communicates her love to me, but it is so gross lol
[9:26:49 AM] Shiloh: Why? Dogs lick!
[9:27:25 AM] Sirius 17: Because her breath stinks and she licks her ass
[9:27:34 AM] Shiloh: Ok
[9:27:34 AM] Sirius 17: And its just ewww lol, but I love her so what can I do, nothing, but tolerate it
[9:28:29 AM] Shiloh: So your dream fits into this astral scene and thema. More I cant say on it though
[9:29:09 AM] Sirius 17: Its fine I know I have very weird dreams. I wasn't going to tell you lol, because sometimes I don't think they matter
[9:29:53 AM] Sirius 17: But then I though ok it was the eclipse, so maybe it is important
[9:30:13 AM] Shiloh: It was! This was a contact dream to prepare emotions
[9:31:29 AM] Sirius 17: I am sorry about DD hon, I know it is a big let down
[9:32:22 AM] Sirius 17: Something in her is changing though and this may not be the last you hear from her; she is evolving too
[9:33:21 AM] Shiloh: I am not surprised
[9:33:34 AM] Sirius 17: I am surprised she seems to of come a long way though from when she first came to us; she has matured
[9:33:51 AM] Shiloh: I knew she was not ready to embrace the Logos and that the 'love you' stuff was fake from her mind
[9:34:08 AM] Shiloh: Her body does love me though and it has become a bodymind
[9:34:57 AM] Shiloh: She knows that the dragon sex is real and she has become at least a little addicted to it
[9:35:03 AM] Shiloh: It will give her no peace
[9:35:48 AM] Shiloh: But whenever sex is NOT on her mind she is this obnoxious egocentric antichrist human mindedness
[9:36:17 AM] Shiloh: So her life will be sexless in a mental selfwanking
[9:36:51 AM] Shiloh: She simply will not be able to derive any satisfactions without my and the MILD input
[9:37:04 AM] Sirius 17: Probably not
[9:37:19 AM] Shiloh: But it is Logos defined now especially from tomorrow
[9:37:21 AM] Sirius 17: She would of been gone otherwise if that were the case
[9:37:31 AM] Shiloh: Oh I know what has happened
[9:37:35 AM] Sirius 17: She keeps coming back to get her Tony fix
[9:37:53 AM] Shiloh: Yes and now the JCCJ has taken her body AS a bodymind
[9:38:09 AM] Sirius 17: And she gets off on hurting you and me. It makes her feel superior or whatever
[9:38:33 AM] Shiloh: Her mindbody will go into her mental hell of the ucadian fake heavens of finance and no 'fuc11ing Jesus' required memeplex
[9:38:39 AM] Sirius 17: To say her shitty little things
[9:38:44 AM] Shiloh: Yes and then she regrets it and blames the meme attacks
[9:39:09 AM] Sirius 17: Whatever lol, what about personal responsiblity
[9:39:17 AM] Shiloh: She asks others opinion on Thuban see?
[9:39:25 AM] Sirius 17: As in I would not say this to someone I truly love
[9:39:34 AM] Shiloh: How can anyone critisize this, without knowing about it?
[9:39:38 AM] Sirius 17: Yes well they cannot give it and she has not figured this out, exactly and they can't know about it unless the Logos wishes it
[9:40:20 AM] Shiloh: It is ok Raven
[9:40:23 AM] Sirius 17: Except like her to judge us in their purile BS minds
[9:40:41 AM] Shiloh: Logos took her essence and I have it in this new pic of hers
[9:41:06 AM] Shiloh: This Chris is an astrologer lol, you saw this?
[9:41:15 AM] Shiloh: Always competing see?
[9:41:16 AM] Sirius 17: I dont give a fuc11 lol. She is a fuc11ing idiot and could of asked you everything she ever wanted to know about her chart
[9:41:44 AM] Sirius 17: Yes it is disgusting[9:42:01 AM] Shiloh: [8:06:31 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: [3:39 AM] Chris Lowthert, D.C.:<<< When was your birthday, time, and place?
<< <<<[8:07:09 AM] Shiloh: Lol You know I little about the subject matter too
<<< [8:07:27 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: He obviously is interested in my data. I know my data.
<<< [8:07:39 AM] Shiloh: It is a man after all?
[9:42:46 AM] Shiloh: But I am pointing out, that she prefers to asks others about the 'metaphysics' and when she asks me, it becomes an argument of Thuban versus the nabsers
[9:42:59 AM] Sirius 17: Well this guy is flirting with her or what?
[9:43:08 AM] Shiloh: No this would be good lol. Her sexdrive is kaput
[9:43:24 AM] Sirius 17: She said he is interested in her data? More like her money
[9:43:26 AM] Shiloh: But resurrected for this transit. Nah this is Ucadia through and through and not personal
[9:43:57 AM] Sirius 17: But why did she bring this up to you?
[9:43:57 AM] Shiloh: Her mind is fuc11ed Raven not her body. When her body has sex, she comes good
[9:44:15 AM] Sirius 17: Yes I understand this; I dont understand why she mentions this guy and what relevance he has to you and her
[9:45:03 AM] Shiloh: http://blog.ucadia.com/2013/10/the-ucadia-financial-system-model.html?spref=tw
[9:45:14 AM] Shiloh: This was her reference
[9:46:34 AM] Shiloh: [8:25 AM] Shiloh:<<< [8:22:48 AM] +Deb Ra Oh Lili Tu+: Wow, guess what I just saw? Inside my house. I saw a shadow of a bat reflected on the ceiling. That's a first.
This means something deep
[9:47:08 AM] Shiloh: The shadow of a vampire see, as the Mirror not reflecting
[9:47:28 AM] Shiloh: This was utterly out of context and it is a Logos message to us
[9:47:44 AM] Sirius 17: Yes I agree; she is haunted lol
[9:47:58 AM] Shiloh: She has died as a human. She is a undead zombie.
[9:48:32 AM] Shiloh: But here the Body is ok and the mind is not vice versa from the stereotype
[9:48:41 AM] Shiloh: And this is the image of your dream
[9:49:08 AM] Shiloh: Your dream the bodies are changed into dragons for the sound minds of the dead alive ones
[9:49:27 AM] Sirius 17: Yes well it did not seem complete yet, but it is another step, but a big one though
[9:49:48 AM] Shiloh: Yes, perhaps Babylon's fall will create the sorrows after Tuesday when the 70 weeks are done
[9:50:35 AM] Shiloh: The scriptures MUST be fulfilled
[9:53:26 AM] Sirius 17: You mean her sorrows?
[9:53:38 AM] Shiloh: There are now two minds in her. One will fall, the other rise
[9:54:06 AM] Sirius 17: You said create the sorrows, we have been through plenty ourselves
[9:54:18 AM] Shiloh: Yes, I dont think we will suffer it this is the last week see, tomorrow
[9:54:35 AM] Sirius 17: Yes
[9:54:39 AM] Shiloh: Well 2 days for you
[9:54:49 AM] Shiloh: I think I get it: 'Get out of her my people'
[9:55:07 AM] Shiloh: Your dream get it? The mountain!
[9:55:25 AM] Sirius 17: Humm
[9:55:26 AM] Shiloh: Is the parallel to 'Fallen Babylon'
[9:55:32 AM] Sirius 17: Oh I see
[9:55:49 AM] Shiloh: Why you saw their hostility. They are different and outside which is inside the Old Babylon
[9:56:30 AM] Shiloh: Inside - Outside relativity and the Temple of the curse and the New Jerusalem in symbol
[9:57:11 AM] Sirius 17: Ok that makes sense
[9:57:40 AM] Shiloh: So it seems there were 24 or a multiple of that
[9:57:59 AM] Sirius 17: Yes it was not a lot, but a small group
[9:58:02 AM] Shiloh: 9-18-27-36-45-54 times 4
[9:58:05 AM] Sirius 17: A remenant
[9:58:19 AM] Shiloh: 4 Beasts see?
[9:58:31 AM] Shiloh: 24 Elders around the throne of the emerald throne of Abba
[9:58:37 AM] Sirius 17: Yeah
[9:58:52 AM] Shiloh: You saw equal male and female?
[9:59:00 AM] Sirius 17: Yes and children, each male-female couple had one child
[9:59:10 AM] Shiloh: There should be only 2 or 4
[9:59:22 AM] Sirius 17: Well this is what I saw
[9:59:34 AM] Shiloh: How many Carlas?
[9:59:37 AM] Sirius 17: Men, women and children - maybe about 6?
[10:00:05 AM] Shiloh: Could it have been 48? All counted?
[10:00:24 AM] Sirius 17: I am not sure, that seems like too many
[10:00:35 AM] Shiloh: 36=Law
[10:00:46 AM] Sirius 17: Yes it could of been
[10:01:13 AM] Shiloh: Well I cannot get anything else, but this take is basically what it means
[10:01:46 AM] Sirius 17: Well i would agree with you; because it did seem about new laws
[10:02:04 AM] Shiloh: [9:59 AM] Sirius 17:<<< each male female couple had one child
So those were all cores?
[10:02:19 AM] Shiloh: No singles?
[10:02:25 AM] Sirius 17: No
[10:02:30 AM] Shiloh: Good and your core was initiation?
[10:03:21 AM] Sirius 17: Yes it seemed to be; like I was being watched by the others and him too
[10:03:56 AM] Shiloh: But no James?
[10:03:59 AM] Sirius 17: And it was not James, I did not recognize him as no one I ever knew or met
[10:04:39 AM] Shiloh: So you had a male core there?
[10:04:55 AM] Sirius 17: Just him in initiation, he was chosen for me
[10:05:10 AM] Shiloh: Was it your core or an ET?
[10:05:20 AM] Sirius 17: He looked like man, Tony. I don't know
[10:05:36 AM] Shiloh: He looked like what?
[10:05:50 AM] Sirius 17: Like an older man with grey hair and glasses, fairly thin, but he could of been ET, I guess
[10:06:22 AM] Shiloh: And his relationship to you was what. You are not clarifying this very well
[10:07:03 AM] Sirius 17: That I was new to this group I said and I was being tested to see if I fit in or would belong to this family
[10:07:23 AM] Shiloh: Dear oh dear
[10:07:48 AM] Shiloh: I am asking a specific question to figure things I am not asking emotional stuff here
[10:08:00 AM] Sirius 17: Yes I am telling you what I remember
[10:08:04 AM] Shiloh: This thin man, was he an examiner and was he examined WITH you?
[10:08:11 AM] Sirius 17: He was a leader
[10:08:17 AM] Shiloh: Was he your prospective core?
[10:08:36 AM] Shiloh: Stuff like this, not some 'emotional fitting in'
[10:08:42 AM] Sirius 17: No he was like a leader and yes I guess you could call him prospective core
[10:08:52 AM] Shiloh: Ok thank you; he was NOT examined with you as your core!
[10:09:33 AM] Sirius 17: No he was a stranger to me, someone I was not familar with
[10:09:39 AM] Shiloh: But if he was a leader, how can he be examined as your core?
[10:09:52 AM] Sirius 17: The word core was not in the dream
[10:10:13 AM] Shiloh: This a very important dream!
[10:10:16 AM] Sirius 17: I was being tested to see if I could partner with him if I could lick him well
[10:10:26 AM] Sirius 17: The licking was very important
[10:10:28 AM] Shiloh: Ok now we are getting there, yes
[10:10:44 AM] Sirius 17: If I could lick well and he felt me and the others did then I was accepted
[10:10:57 AM] Shiloh: Good yes, now I can see it
[10:10:59 AM] Sirius 17: And Carla could feel it which generated all her questions
[10:11:08 AM] Shiloh: Empathy yes
[10:11:18 AM] Sirius 17: This was the way they had sex, as I understood it from the dream perspective; how they made love
[10:11:39 AM] Shiloh: So your licking became a criteria of assimilation
[10:11:43 AM] Sirius 17: Yes
[10:12:00 AM] Shiloh: And this dream was after applesauce or before it
[10:12:10 AM] Sirius 17: Last night after
[10:12:33 AM] Shiloh: So this could be the alpha dynamics, you see this yes?
[10:12:53 AM] Sirius 17: Like the dogs, the alpha dog
[10:12:56 AM] Sirius 17: ?
[10:13:03 AM] Shiloh: If it would have been before, then it would have carried deeper ET connotations
[10:13:41 AM] Shiloh: No your alpha rhythms utilized your psychosomatic experiences with applesauce
[10:13:48 AM] Sirius 17: Well see I felt bad for not liking Applesauce licking me
[10:14:04 AM] Sirius 17: And I was going through in my mind why I didn't like it and how I could try to understand her better
[10:14:08 AM] Shiloh: Yes this would be part of it
[10:14:11 AM] Sirius 17: Then I went to bed and had this dream
[10:14:41 AM] Shiloh: It still remains a potent message regarding the dragon sex
[10:14:56 AM] Shiloh: But your dreaming here created a substitute
[10:15:56 AM] Sirius 17: What do you mean
[10:16:38 AM] Shiloh: First you felt guilty for 'rejecting' applesauce and then you miss having physical satisfying sex
[10:16:50 AM] Sirius 17: Lol true, I miss it very much
[10:18:18 AM] Shiloh: Fuc11ed up old world. The mountain and cutoff parts of the dream remain however as ET logistics
[10:20:40 AM] Sirius 17: Well the new family or commune whatever it was seemed like a good alternative to me
[10:20:56 AM] Shiloh: Yes and this was the ET part
[10:20:59 AM] Sirius 17: Even though it was very foreign lol
[10:21:05 AM] Shiloh: But they dont have sex in licking
[10:21:24 AM] Shiloh: The skin gives the dragon nature away
[10:21:52 AM] Sirius 17: Well maybe it wasn't sex but it seemed a form of erotic communication anyhow
[10:22:03 AM] Shiloh: Canine yes!
[10:25:29 AM] Sirius 17: Well I wonder if Rok is home yet or just leaving today
[10:26:23 AM] Shiloh: I looked before to find his departure times, but could not find them and there are no emails
[10:26:30 AM] Shiloh:I feel Love for your children Shiloh
This is for them.
For Richard who chose Life while remaining on Earth and for Deborah who chose Life by moving beyond.
The words are from Jeff Foster.
[10:26:34 AM] Shiloh: Mudra's reply
[10:26:57 AM] Shiloh: See how Deborah 'moving into the beyond' is appropriate?
[10:28:38 AM] Sirius 17: What do you mean?
[10:28:52 AM] Sirius 17: Oh Mudra's words yes; very nice post she made, yeah I was looking at it just now
[10:29:35 AM] Shiloh: Yes she means my Debbie, but it applies to Lassie with Debbie in the MILD separating from Debra oh ..
[10:30:11 AM] Shiloh: This will be interesting from Wednesday, November 6th
[10:30:37 AM] Shiloh: Because I never felt this separation between minds and bodies as strongly as today
[10:31:01 AM] Sirius 17: What do you think will happen?
[10:31:08 AM] Shiloh: This will also affect James from Wednesday
[10:31:31 AM] Sirius 17: He quit smoking pot yesterday again
[10:31:34 AM] Shiloh: Desolations between the old perceptions of what a Body and a Mind are
[10:31:53 AM] Shiloh: You saw the convo last night was all about her Ooopsey idea what a mind is
[10:32:02 AM] Sirius 17: Yes
[10:32:05 AM] Shiloh: Did I paste this?
[10:32:08 AM] Sirius 17: You did
[10:32:12 AM] Shiloh: ?
[10:32:29 AM] Sirius 17: Well I agree with you, she is not making any sense and is full of her nabs BS
[10:32:41 AM] Shiloh: It will be universal from Tuesday but now is still in template
[10:32:52 AM] Shiloh: She is utterly deluded and this at ALL times, except when she feels sexy
[10:33:08 AM] Sirius 17: She fuc11ing knows it all so you can't bother trying to talk to her about anything; deaf dumb and blind
[10:33:12 AM] Shiloh: Then she comes good. But this is the Logos plan
[10:34:01 AM] Shiloh: To first give her 'the cosmic essence' of the JCCJ LoFaB and then watching her throwing it away
[10:34:10 AM] Shiloh: Because of human minded arrogance and vanities. And did we suffer the realism of that.
[10:34:34 AM] Shiloh: But no more!
[10:34:35 AM] Sirius 17: Yes I know its very disheartening, disturbing as hell to witness
[10:35:17 AM] Shiloh: [10:34 AM] Shiloh:<<< To first give her 'the cosmic essence' of the JCCJ LoFaB and then watching her throwing it away
By following WRONG teachings
[10:35:36 AM] Shiloh: Just like the words of Jesus became corrupted by the schismas
[10:35:58 AM] Sirius 17: Yes and just like the real Barbelo in creating her mental abominations
[10:36:05 AM] Shiloh: Yes and this means that the desolations for her well human mindedness will begin Tuesaday
[10:36:46 AM] Shiloh: This means that her template function is released to the entire cosmos
[10:37:06 AM] Sirius 17: It must be
[10:37:08 AM] Shiloh: If this will affect or change her mental vanity I dont know
[10:37:17 AM] Shiloh: This is of secondary importance
[10:37:20 AM] Sirius 17: Because she held it together long enough to stick through the eclipse with you
[10:37:51 AM] Shiloh: Yes and this sudden 'coming good' and clean for 1 day is the halfweek mirror
[10:38:08 AM] Shiloh: It is too uncanny for this to be coincidence
[10:38:20 AM] Sirius 17: Yes and she does not know wtf we mean here either; she could not of planned this
[10:38:35 AM] Shiloh: She triggered and showed us her BodyMind Raven and this is part of the JCCJ
[10:39:25 AM] Shiloh: Now her Mind(Body) has taken over dominance again, because her sexual libido became temporarily satisfied in the mind-body harmony with me and her past as Lassie and in the MILD
[10:40:17 AM] Shiloh: Her BodyMind is entwined with me and this means her Mind Old has 'fallen' meaning it was taken over by the JCCJ into her BODY only
[10:40:27 AM] Sirius 17: Yes and you know what, she did not orgasm, because if she had this mental breakdown she has had would of not happend like it did
[10:41:03 AM] Shiloh: So now you have her thought of as old mind up there in her ucadia heaven, thinking it has won the meme war, because I proclaimed - again - my true love for her
[10:41:42 AM] Shiloh: She does not know, not understand, that my love is for her 'fallen bodymind' now as MILD and that her old mind, she thinks I love can go literally to hell
[10:41:54 AM] Sirius 17: The Devil really is a bitch lol
[10:42:00 AM] Shiloh: You understand this? It is relevant for all cores.
[10:42:17 AM] Sirius 17: Yes
[10:42:28 AM] Shiloh: I dont think she orgasmed but she 'felt loved'
[10:42:37 AM] Sirius 17: Yes thats true
[10:43:10 AM] Shiloh: But this was me through the MILD and the 'wavecore of BS' who is with me and the MILD always
[10:43:29 AM] Shiloh: So without me, BS will not feel what he did for her etc
[10:43:45 AM] Shiloh: BS only 'wants DD because his wavecore is with me
[10:43:55 AM] Sirius 17: Yes, I did understand that part and she ignored that, but I saw you tell her as much
[10:44:19 AM] Shiloh: So DD saying goodbye means she says goodbye to her 'feeling loved' by anyone PHYSICALLY
[10:44:39 AM] Sirius 17: Heavy yes
[10:44:56 AM] Shiloh: She can look for the mental love of the FOCS and whoever until the ucadian cows come home. She will not find ANY mental satisfaction
[10:45:19 AM] Shiloh: This is encoded in Ezekiel: ".. but thou couldest not be satisfied..." etc
[10:46:14 AM] Shiloh: Now this will be global, but has been part of the MM core until now
[10:46:28 AM] Shiloh: So this is another factor of why Rok and Xeia fell apart
[10:46:48 AM] Shiloh: This 'going cosmic' will begin an entire new cosmic ballgame
[10:47:03 AM] Shiloh: You get this?
[10:47:05 AM] Sirius 17: Because they forgot about the real Logos and yeah I understand
[10:47:27 AM] Shiloh: Well apart from you and me, noone knows the true Logos, well and Adam
[10:47:43 AM] Shiloh: So this is irrelevant
[10:47:59 AM] Shiloh: What counts is the new cosmic lawfulness going executive
[10:48:02 AM] Sirius 17: Can you show me this Ezekiel?
[10:48:15 AM] Sirius 17: Or tell me which one and I will look it up
[10:48:16 AM] Shiloh: Which would be an evolution not a rapid transformation
[10:48:24 AM] Shiloh: I look
[10:49:10 AM] Shiloh:
King James Version (KJV)
27 Behold, therefore I have stretched out my hand over thee, and have diminished thine ordinary food, and delivered thee unto the will of them that hate thee, the daughters of the Philistines, which are ashamed of thy lewd way.
28 Thou hast played the whore also with the Assyrians, because thou wast unsatiable; yea, thou hast played the harlot with them, and yet couldest not be satisfied.
29 Thou hast moreover multiplied thy fornication in the land of Canaan unto Chaldea; and yet thou wast not satisfied therewith.
[10:49:17 AM] Sirius 17: [10:46 AM] Shiloh:<<< This 'going cosmic' will begin an entire new cosmic ballgame. You get this?
Yes my dream seemed to indicate as much
[10:49:40 AM] Shiloh: This is MENTAL whoredom not physical
[10:49:53 AM] Sirius 17: Yes I know
[10:50:19 AM] Shiloh: Betrayal of Abba as the Old Jerusalem or Israel or Judah or Samaria
[10:50:49 AM] Shiloh: DD hates you and scripture so much because this is the platform basis of Ucadia, Bonacci and Ashera and co
[10:50:55 AM] Sirius 17: Yes there is no physical betrayal anymore
[10:51:01 AM] Shiloh: Nope
[10:51:14 AM] Sirius 17: Yes it is the anti and we know it is false because the real Logos is no divider
[10:52:18 AM] Sirius 17: It is no more separate from creation then water is from earth
[10:52:29 AM] Shiloh: Anyone who is offended by Jesus is against himher
[10:52:39 AM] Sirius 17: Exactly
[10:52:48 AM] Shiloh: It says it in the texts
[10:52:49 AM] Sirius 17: period...
[10:52:54 AM] Shiloh: period
[10:53:03 AM] Sirius 17: dot dot dot lol
[10:53:52 AM] Shiloh: But you FULLY understand this DD business know I hope. This is important so that you no longer are part of this war
[10:54:19 AM] Shiloh: Her agenda was to separate mind and body and help bring about the doubling of it
[10:54:35 AM] Shiloh: Mind and Body cannot separate until physical death, unless it doubles
[10:54:44 AM] Sirius 17: Yes
[10:54:54 AM] Shiloh: So this doubling is this last chart as the 70 weeks
[10:55:19 AM] Shiloh: Also Rok and Xeia have fulfilled their roles of bridging this in the PM
[10:55:43 AM] Shiloh: And you and James likewise in essence
[10:56:20 AM] Shiloh: But from Tuesday, the MindBody 'upstairs' and the BodyMind 'downstairs' are like a shadow self in everyone
[10:56:31 AM] Shiloh: Now see the shadow of the bat again yes?
[10:56:37 AM] Sirius 17: Aye
[10:56:47 AM] Shiloh: DD saw her own Mindshadow reflected in her house
[10:56:49 AM] Sirius 17: I saw it before, the doubling - indeed
[10:57:08 AM] Shiloh: Her Mindshadow as you said will haunt her no end
[10:57:19 AM] Shiloh: It is the BodyMind I love
[10:57:20 AM] Sirius 17: As will Xeia's
[10:57:36 AM] Shiloh: The mind now descended into her Body as 50% of the JCCJ
[10:57:41 AM] Shiloh: Indeed and they both are cursed and doomed by themselves UNTIL they recognize their true selfs within their true unique cosmic twinship cores
[10:58:53 AM] Sirius 17: Yes this could be a while also, I do understand that
[10:59:06 AM] Shiloh: The other 50% are the Bodypart in the MindBody of DD and Xeia now disfunctioning
[10:59:58 AM] Shiloh: So you and I have a functioning MindBody with JCCJ in 50% but Xeia and DD do not because of this cosmic dissonance
[11:00:11 AM] Shiloh: Write this as Mind(Body)
[11:00:27 AM] Shiloh: You and I have the JCCJ integration as a MindBody, because 'we believe' in the power and existence of the Logos
[11:00:30 AM] Shiloh: They don't
[11:01:16 AM] Shiloh: Because the (Body) part is part of the 100% of the JCCJ coupled to the true essence as their BodyMind
[11:01:17 AM] Sirius 17: http://www.animal-symbols.com/bat-symbol.html
you will like this although I know you know the meanings
[11:01:26 AM] Shiloh: We all have the descent of the BodyMind
[11:01:34 AM] Shiloh: But very few have the MindBody
[11:01:44 AM] Sirius 17: True
[11:01:50 AM] Shiloh: You dont follow what I am saying? It directly affects you you know
[11:02:45 AM] Shiloh: I am only explaining this, because you can understand it
[11:03:18 AM] Shiloh: The 'Fall of Babylon' is in all people male and female as the natural body
[11:03:59 AM] Shiloh: But the 'ascent of the Phoenix' demands the maleness of the mind natural to couple to JCCJ
[11:04:16 AM] Shiloh: And without eating and surrendering to the Logos this is impossible
[11:04:28 AM] Shiloh: GOT #114
[11:04:31 AM] Sirius 17: Yes of course I understand dear; yes and 108 go together
[11:05:16 AM] Shiloh: You are a witness and testimony keeper and I am pushing you because of that and not because of something individualistic
[11:05:40 AM] Shiloh: You SHOULD understand what the Logos plan is therefore
[11:05:45 AM] Sirius 17: Without believing in Jesus nothing goes because he is all things
[11:05:48 AM] Shiloh: Not just considering it
[11:06:05 AM] Shiloh: But this is the cosmic alchemy and wedding
[11:06:15 AM] Sirius 17: Yes this is the thief in the night
[11:06:18 AM] Shiloh: All BodyMinds become the 'Bride of the Lamb' of Rev.19
[11:06:35 AM] Sirius 17:
But the Native American legends tends to dispute this because they associate the bat with death because it flies at night and as a sign of rebirth because these bats always sleep with heads down. The face down act is associated to the position of the baby before birth. In the society of Shamans, the bat represents the desire to die a ritual death before one is able to develop into a new being. It is therefore an animal which represented initiations.
[11:06:44 AM] Sirius 17: A snip from the link above, but it relates
[11:06:52 AM] Shiloh: Yes of course
[11:07:27 AM] Sirius 17: She saw a shadow of her own 'initations' lol
[11:07:47 AM] Shiloh: Well her mental demise and destruction more fittingly
[11:07:48 AM] Sirius 17: Blind bat and many other things and comical as only the Logos can do lol
[11:08:12 AM] Shiloh: Because think of it?
[11:08:21 AM] Shiloh: Mind(Body)
[11:08:24 AM] Shiloh: BodyMind
[11:08:34 AM] Shiloh: Is the new cosmic blueprint
[11:09:04 AM] Shiloh: The (Body) is the acceptance or rejection of the JCCJ bodyform
[11:09:16 AM] Sirius 17: Yes
[11:09:21 AM] Shiloh: The BodyMind is however omnipresent
[11:09:47 AM] Shiloh: So the coupling part of the JCCJ IN everyones body can no longer be rejected
[11:09:57 AM] Shiloh: So can you see it now?
[11:10:43 AM] Shiloh: JCCJ is everpresent in everyone BUT is divided by proxy by all deniers who THEN must enter the LoFaB via their Mind(Body)
[11:10:45 AM] Sirius 17: Yes I think so
[11:11:36 AM] Shiloh: It becomes a cosmic war between the (Body) above and the Mind below
[11:11:40 AM] Sirius 17: Yes and it is their own mind(body) that separates them and keeps them from entering into the new jerusalem
[11:11:47 AM] Shiloh: Now read this again
[11:12:20 AM] Shiloh: (Body) above is the ascended wavebody related to the ETs and dead alive ones and the returned elders
[11:12:41 AM] Shiloh: Mind below is natural from Tuesday in every incarnate on the planet
[11:12:58 AM] Shiloh: Can you fathom the inner conflicts of the old stubborn nonrepenting human mindedness??
[11:13:15 AM] Sirius 17: Yes and it won't be pretty lol
[11:13:33 AM] Shiloh: I hope so. It is crucial.
[11:14:20 AM] Sirius 17:
(70) Jesus said, "That which you have will save you if you bring it forth from yourselves. That which you do not have within you will kill you if you do not have it within you."
[11:14:24 AM] Shiloh: It can be literalized as the (Body) of Jesus returning in the manyness and IS imo the 2nd Coming made manifest
[11:14:25 AM] Sirius 17: relates to this also
[11:14:43 AM] Shiloh: Excellent, yes
[11:15:14 AM] Shiloh: You must release the lion, which has eaten you as a part of the universe occupying a spacetime locale
[11:16:52 AM] Shiloh: I am going to make a message of this, but will leave out your dream
[11:17:03 AM] Shiloh: It explains the LofaB extra well
[11:17:20 AM] Sirius 17: Ok I trust you; my dream is just so bizarre, but we understand it
[11:17:44 AM] Shiloh: Lol if you dont trust me by now, there is no trust
[11:17:57 AM] Shiloh: You want me to add it?
[11:17:58 AM] Sirius 17: Of course I do and always have. If you think it belongs there, sure
[11:18:35 AM] Sirius 17: As you know by now I dont give a flying rats ass what the humans think anymore
[11:18:41 AM] Shiloh: It has relevance to contact, but the applesauce event permeates it in symbolic interference
[11:18:54 AM] Shiloh: I will then ok as I still consider it ET relevant for the future
[11:20:56 AM] Sirius 17: yes i do see the relevance for hybridization and new forms of communication
[11:21:07 AM] Shiloh: Yes and this will be an explosive post, as I shall expose the lies and deceptions
His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone.
Take the millstones, and grind meal: uncover thy locks, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh, pass over the rivers.
Moreover I will take from them the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride, the sound of the millstones, and the light of the candle.
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
[12:18:14 PM] Sirius 17: oh wow
[12:22:16 PM] Shiloh: See how the 'voice of the bridegroom shall no longer found in thee' fits perfectly?
[12:22:33 PM] Sirius 17: yes
[12:23:09 PM] Shiloh: This is why I said, that you can bet your life on this fulfilment of the Lion testament of Daniel
[12:23:48 PM] Shiloh: A Mind within the Body, but no longer a (Body) without the Mind
[12:24:05 PM] Shiloh: Utter desolation and memeplex destruction
[12:24:31 PM] Shiloh: Hosea and Ezekiel and Isaiah and Malachi and Revelation fulfilled as well as the Lamentations of Jeremiah
xxxEnd of Part 2xxx