B.B.Baghor wrote:Ortho's remark inspires me to reply, in an investigative way, feeling my way through it. What is it that I and ortho find difficulty with, when going into the Thuban material? When I honestly focus on what it is that I myself have a
problem with and what kind of feelings rise up, when pondering the Thuban material, is that much of that is presented
here in a style of colorful and dramatic shine and glamor. It's so much in volume and vibrations, that I can't "get it"
proplerly. All the time a question pops up, while going through it. And that question is "What's the point of this?"
It may be my 4 past lives :bleh: in this one lifetime, having set me on distance of this style and vibrations. No arrogance
is meant here, I'm doing the best I can, although something like that easily slips through. Says Mother Superior ;)
I've gone through a similar kind of vibes in the '70's, with pleasurable suspense in giggles and chicken skin, in the company
of booz and drugs, mainly present inside the veins of those around me, artists, dealers and musicians, birds of paradise,
travelers and seekers, in big halls with black paint on the walls, walking on blue suede shoes in leather pants, purple Indian
skirts with mirrors in it, or sweet fluffy nothings of a tiny dress, exploring the underground world of that time.
How we "celebrated" that. Most of it was artificially made up, like fantasy games played in grouprooms, in sort of virtual
astral groupsex sessions. Those dark hours of mirages, in those years, died/dyed out with the dawn of the next day,
never to be remembered. This wasn't a loss of time, I just try to paint the scene of how life made me into who I am now.
To me, it's fun to enjoy that kind of vibes in works of art, in daydreaming, astral traveling and moments of indulgence,
in parties, on the dance floor with a magical display of lights and images, flashing stroboscopes, sort of intentionally overwhelming,
for a moment. Allowing those, present on the floor, a loss of awareness or something of that nature. Nothing wrong with that.
For sure, it's a matter of personal taste and a similar preference for which world you choose, to be and live in, or start to work
from. To me, experienced in daydreaming and much use of imagination, it's very welcome to see expressions of someone's
truth in the world, be it from the past, present or future, presented in a form that is clear and simple. Which doe'sn't mean
that the content is simple, for I consider the Thuban material as possibly multi layered and thus.... a multitude of times ready
for exploring, on new levels. To me and maybe others too, this Thuban material may not be a road to follow, I have no problem
To me, the Thuban material, with all my respect for it being in existence and lived by or tried out, to see if it works for you,
is a representative of a time that is and has been so far in our past, resonating with the life circumstances of that same past,
when human consciousness was ruled and guided by beings in command, capable of holding the consciousness of large groups
of people (or other beings) under their reign. The Sumerian culture used a title for their ruler, which means "shepherd" as well
In my view, in those days of long long ago, that ruling was not yet, or at least not that much, infiltrated by dark agendas and their
masters, when the planetary grid and human conditions in life were still sort of...... intact. If ever we can truly determine that,
while living within the consciousness grid of this enchanted world called planet Earth, pretty much enchanted already, when we
are born. With the help of a veil and our past life-stories imprinted in our system, more or less conscious of them.
A flawed integrity in the present ruling of society and its people is common nowadays, or at least, our life-circumstances have
become immensely complex, in general. And much controlled. In their form and expression they have gone way over our heads,
bypassing often the awareness of our hearts. In this way, to me personally, does this Thuban material show up for me, and this
may be the reason why the history of how the Thuban material is treated. is as it is, having gone over many heads, like it seems
to be the case in Project Avalon Forum years.
I may be mistaken, or in need of more information to make up my mind on this, in clarity. I haven't followed this at that time, so I
don't know the real reason, why it was banned from there. And how that's been done. As I said before, I don't mean to see it banned
from here, to be clear. I'm an eternal explorer ;) To me and maybe others, the presentation of this material may be the obstacle in
making it understood. Unless this style of presentation is inherent to the nature of it, in what is expressed in that famous statement
"for eyes able to see and for ears able to hear". Maybe I'm trying too much to make it be understood by others, without a need for it
present in them and thus..... an unsuccesful attempt of mine?
Know that I love dragons, not sure if I love Draconean creatures. I think that, not being used to things, specially beings and creatures
that are far removed from our paradigms, creates fear, without any legitimate reason for it, when confronted with them. And before we
know it, when identifying with it, becoming it as it were, we may find that our fear materializes in front of our eyes, creating a tough
situation, of our own making. I hope we humans will be supported in this process of becoming aquainted to such otherness, when
that happens. For myself, I've made sure, as far as I've come to know them, that I acknowledge my inner dragons.
I'm prepared to be half-understanding or too complicated in my view on and approach of this. Or too..... Sirius? I'm well aware of my
style in writing and use of words, probably more effective when less in numbers. Does this make sense to you?
The problem with the 'Thuban material' is its nature and origin.
It is not addressed towards the human mindedness, except in its peripheral topicity and subject matter addressed.
It is however addressed towards the subconscious and the superconscious parts of the human soul, free from their cultural and environmentally conditioned encumberments.
It is from this premise that a certain mystique and attraction is found by the perusers encountering such 'difficult' material.
How much work has to be invested to understand all this science and the scripture quotations thrown into the mix?
To criticize the 'Words of the Dragons' on their content, rather than their presentation or human mind digestability is often a task too hard and cumbersome for the reader who prefers 'lovey dovey' feel-good words from nabsers, quasi-scientists and basic fraudsters and intellectual pretenders towards the naïve and the gullible.
So instead of checking on some basic science or mathematics it is rather an easier task to question the motives and agenda of the messengers; whose messages are often too hard to understand and mentally too challenging and so are conveniently ignored as irrelevant or as alien to ones semantic perceptions.
And so another trouble with 'readers' like orthodoxymoron and the Triple Bee becomes their unwillingness to recall or learn the vocabulary and semantical lexicon required for a meaningful and pertinent analysis and evaluation of the Dragon Information presented.
When will the orthodoxymorons and the triple bees of the human world succeed in catching it?
TripleBee wrote:Anyway, the story unfolds later in our lives, when my cat, called Tobias, came home one day with the tip of
his tail in sticky tar. Before I had had the time to find a way to remove it, he had bitten off the fur of that part!
I went to the animal doctor with him, who advised me to let him be operated on, in order to take off the few
bones at the end of his tail, that were bare now.
I hesitated but decided that this was for the best. The doctor warned me that when this wasn't treated well,
chances were that my cat would have an infected tail and had to loose it entirely. I simply couldn't see that
happening to my cat, this fierce guardian who always held this part of his body high, parading outside in my garden.
Had I known the after math of that operation in advance, I wouldn't have had him operated on, for when I had
brought him home with me, bandages and all and a plastic cap around his neck, so that he couldn't remove the
bandages, he came out of the cage and immediately began to jump against the walls, rejecting that cap.
Mad with fury, with such strength!
I removed the cap and within seconds he had taken off the bandages and had laid bare the skin of his tail.
Uggghhhh! Now, he was furious from being in huge pain! I had to rush back to the animal doctor and
let him operated on again.... what money I have spent on that catfriend! The doctor was helpful and
offered me a plane cage of metal, to put Tobias in, with his plastic cap in place and subdued on a low dose
of tranquilisers and a painkiller. This doctor was truly impressed by the fierceness, my cat showed him.
And happy with the money I paid him
This solution with the cage worked well, I had to take care of Tobias for weeks, until the wound on his tail
was healed. Now, the difficult part of this tailstory, was a connection with that etheric grid around the planet.
When I had experienced for the second time, that Tobias hurt his tail, now by a neighbor cat attacking it,
panting in the bathroom with blood all over the place, a whole night long, I was at the end of my tether.
Again, the cage had to be placed in my living room and Tobias had to be in it, with his attributes in place.
I stroke him often, to calm him and when I stroke his eyes, he almost went in a trance. Very endearing.
I decided to call a friend who was experienced in reading energy of animals and issues troubling them.
Or their owners She asked me to send a picture of the beast and chose a phone consultation, to see
what could be done with this recurring tail hurting. As soon as she made contact with Tobias, she asked
him to show her the core picture of this issue. She described to me, that by fleeing and freeing his tail,
in huge shock, he had left behind the etheric bodypart of his tail in the mouth of the dog.
From that moment, he was in denial of his tail, in survival mode and couldn't "relate" to it anymore.
For the fact that he couldn't "own" his tail, he lost "ownership" over it and energetically caused an opportunity,
for an intruding energy, in this case the attack of his neighborcat. Where a space is empty, nature/life chooses
to fill that space, like it or not. All the time, Tobias was sitting in his cage, very altert, with his ears in listening
mode, when I was on the phone with my friend.
She told me that she was going to show Tobias the catgrid - energy, with the cat-characteristics, in this case, the tail.
As soon as Tobias had a good look at this, he began to lick his tail in the astral version of his body, she reported to me.
This was a good sign, for now he was aware of his tail, again. My friend reminded me of his position, his role towards me.
She explained that by his being the man in the house, guarding me, he had suffered a deep shame, for having lost
the fight with the neighbor cat. He felt that I lost my respect for him and that needed to be restored also.
I was very moved by that, for he and I were such good friends!
After a while, the session was over, my friend advised me to leave Tobias in the cage for a while, for the healing
could cause some emotional upheaval, remains of the trauma, surfacing as a result of it. That night, I chose to
leave Tobias alone for a while and went to the library. What astonishment, when I came home, finding Tobias
in his cage, with the plastic cap removed, lying next to him! He had bitten through all the knots of the cord around
his neck. He could have done that earlier, but this was meant to be this way. He looked at me with such pride
and triumph, that I felt his macho nature had had a great boost." Good for you" I said. We were so happy!
What a miracle to find him in that state, while opening the door of the cage, letting him free and seeing him
in complete calm with himself and his friend who loved him so very much. That night he was on my lap for
the first time after long weeks of living in concern, with great patience.
Tobias with his proudly owned short tail 12 years old
Tobias, 3 years old with his tail complete
'Toby Tobias Schnucklputz"
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